Action Big Alert: Stop Funds to Obamacare!
I have tried to edit this interview to the most essential parts, but most of it is so important I ended up leaving most of it in. Please read this and act. One thing I promise, once this monster is in cement, you will not like it. Please act now—hold our elected representatives accountable! ~C.A. Davidson
Interview: Senator Mike Lee Explains the Plan to Stop Funds to Obamacare
[Obamacare] is despised outside of the Washington, DC, Beltway area, and we’ve got to stop it, and I think the American people are with us. The wind’s at our backs on this. We’ve just gotta convince those who are here in Washington to do the right thing.
We’re encouraging people to get behind this effort, to communicate with their congressman and their senators and to say, “Please don’t do this.” People can find out who is where on this position at a website we set up for this purpose. It’s dontfundobamacare.com. They can go to dontfundobamacare.com, where they can be directed to the identities of those senators and those representatives who are with us and those who have not yet joined our cause. ~Senator Mike Lee
From the Rush Limbaugh Radio Show
RUSH: Tell me and everybody else what you’re trying to do because there are now people saying what you want to do can’t be done because so much of the spending is locked in. But I’ve read, no, that’s not true. And then, second question, I remain perplexed. I mean, you got a majority of the American people that oppose this, and I don’t see the Republican Party trying to connect with them, outside of you and a couple others. So a lot of this doesn’t make any sense to a whole lot of people.
SENATOR LEE: That’s right, it doesn’t make any sense to a whole lot of people outside the Washington Beltway. You see, inside the Washington Beltway, this discussion is controversial. Outside the Beltway, Obamacare is universally despised. This is an issue, Rush, that is no longer just about Republican versus Democrat. It’s no longer about liberal versus conservative. This is about Washington, DC, versus everyone else. This law is despised because it’s gonna make our health care unaffordable. It’s also going to make health care unfair, because the president has said he’s gonna hold hardworking Americans to the line and punish them if they don’t comply with the law’s exacting demands, but he’s gonna give a big carve-out for Big Business. Big Business doesn’t have to comply. The American people shouldn’t have to put up with it. The president said he’s not ready to implement the law. We shouldn’t fund it.
RUSH: When you say Big Business doesn’t have to comply, you’re talking about the one-year waiver on the employer mandate?
SENATOR LEE: That’s correct. The president’s selectively enforcing the law in a way that he doesn’t have the authority to do.
RUSH: Isn’t that a tantamount admission that the law’s punitive and he doesn’t want it to be punitive going into an election?
SENATOR LEE: Yes. It’s punitive, . . . he’s throwing this bone out there so that he doesn’t get attacked as much within the business community and the lobbyist community. Meanwhile, he’s throwing the rest of us out into this wasteland that is the world of Obamacare.
RUSH: Even if the Republican Party does not want to be identified as a conservative party, they still are an opposition party. … even if they believe that what you want to do can’t be done, why not make a stand? There’s a majority of the American people waiting to be connected with. Why this capitulation with the Democrats, Senator?
Stop Funds to Obamacare, not the whole government
SENATOR LEE: We have a majority of the representatives in the House and a sizeable plurality of the senators who are against Obamacare, have been since day one. In the House they voted 39, 40, 41 times to repeal it. “You know, one of the few powers that we still guard jealously within Congress is the power of the purse.” We should simply refuse to fund Obamacare. We want to fund the rest of government, just not Obamacare.
RUSH: What is being said by the establishment, by Washington, is this. Look, 98, 99% of Obamacare is autopilot spending. It can’t be cut. It is just like any entitlement — Social Security, Medicare — we can’t stop it.
SENATOR LEE: Well, those who are saying we can’t touch this because it’s mandatory spending are simply wrong. They’re simply mistaken, or perhaps they’ve been misinformed. The point is that Congress can decide to pass any kind of spending bill it wants. The fact that you’ve got mandatory spending that’s already been authorized for Obamacare’s implementation doesn’t mean that can’t be cut. We can run this with an amendment — in fact, an amendment has already been drafted up to make it so that we fund everything else in government but we claw back, we restrict funding for Obamacare, both mandatory and discretionary.
RUSH: What about the argument that there’s no way you’re ever going to get 51 votes for this?
SENATOR LEE: Okay. So the argument that we’re never going to win so we shouldn’t even try overlooks the fact that if every Republican who claims to be against Obamacare simply said, “I’m not going to vote to fund Obamacare,” we would win. And so that’s why we’re encouraging people to get behind this effort, to communicate with their congressman and their senators and to say, “Please don’t do this.” And people can find out who is where on this position at a website we set up for this purpose. It’s dontfundobamacare.com. They can go to dontfundobamacare.com, where they can be directed to the identities of those senators and those representatives who are with us and those who have not yet joined our cause.
RUSH: They’re worried that somewhere down the line public opinion on this is gonna shift and people are gonna end up liking it.
SENATOR LEE: I think that’s right, and I’ve got two responses to that. First, Rush, the fact that entitlements, by their very nature, become popular among some of their beneficiaries is not a reason to let this law kick in. It’s a reason to stop it be with because what we discover about entitlements, Rush, is that once they’re in place, they’re almost impossible to get rid of. You got death, you got taxes, and you’ve got entitlements. So it’s better to stop this thing before it kicks in, before it starts, you know, buying some loyalty among those who will never let it go away, than it would be to let it kick in and just hope and expect we can repeal it later. That becomes much more difficult.
This was a law supposedly passed by, you know, a democratically elected Congress. Well, in a sense that’s true, but we have to remember, Rush, that it’s been amended now four times. It’s been amended four times by people who didn’t have the authority. It’s been amended twice by the Supreme Court, as I explained in my book, Why John Roberts was Wrong About Healthcare, amended the statute two times in order to make it constitutional, even though they found it wasn’t. Two more times by the president who didn’t have the power to change it, but still did.
RUSH: This country’s in the midst of a purposeful transformation that makes government not just the center of everybody’s life, but essential, and people do not want that to happen. They’ve always thought the Republican Party stood against that, so why not just stand up, even if you’re afraid people might end up liking it.
SENATOR LEE: If we undertake the right policy, which is to stop Obamacare by any means possible, then we will benefit as a party, because that’s what the American people elected us to do. By the same token, if we don’t do that, we’re in huge trouble as a party because we were put into power in the House of Representatives after the 2010 election because of Obamacare. We were put into power to stop Obamacare.
RUSH: Exactly! The 2010 midterms, and Obama is out campaigning today trying to sell Obamacare, which is already the law of the land. Why is he doing that? Because he doesn’t want a repeat in 2014 of what happened in 2010. They want to win the House. And there’s no push-back, Senator, other than you. Can you give me some other names that have joined you in this?
SENATOR LEE: Sure. So in the Senate, we’ve got a number of people that have joined. I was pleased to be joined by Marco Rubio, by Ted Cruz, by Rand Paul, John Thune, Mike Enzi. We have Chuck Grassley on there as well. Mike Crapo, Republican senator from Idaho, just joined yesterday. He’s our latest edition. We’ve got a total of 13. We’ve got about 70 in the House that have signed a similar pledge. And we’re building these numbers every day. We’re building because as people become aware of this effort they will get there. I was just told by my staff that within the last day or so the House of Representatives has risen to the level of about a hundred.
There are a hundred members of the House of Representatives that have now joined with us, and these numbers are building every single day because the American people are speaking out.
SENATOR LEE: Okay. So, in the first place, I want to be very clear that what I’m calling for is not a shutdown. I don’t want a shutdown. I don’t think we need a shutdown. We ought to be able to fund the government responsibly without a shutdown. What I’m saying is that we ought to fund government, just not Obamacare. We shouldn’t have to vote for all of it, including Obamacare, or have none of it. That’s crazy. Secondly, if we signal in advance that no matter what we’re going to fund Obamacare, that’s the best way to make that happen. And so that’s not the signal we should be sending.
Finally, if we get enough people who are on board in the house and in the Senate who have expressed concerns about Obamacare and are willing to say “I’m going to vote to fund government, but not Obamacare” you then put Harry Reid in the position, the untenable position of having to say because we didn’t get everything we wanted, even though you funded every other program in government, even the programs Republicans hate, we’re gonna shut down the government in the Democratic Party because you didn’t include funding for Obamacare. That’s a terrible position for him to be in. I don’t think he wants to fight that fight, and, frankly, I don’t think he can win that fight.
RUSH: Where are the Democrats on your effort? I know publicly, if asked, they would say that your task is hopeless and it’s not serious, but where are they really? It seems to me that if you’ve got this increasing number of signatories, essentially, if your support is growing every day, is there some legitimate worry on the Democrat side that you could pull this off?
SENATOR LEE: Deep down yes, I think there is, and that’s one of the reasons why they’re more than happy to have fellow Republicans be at the tip of the spear and the attack against this effort. And, look, I want to make clear, I am fully aware of the fact that the Washington establishment is not happy with me about this effort. I’m fully aware of the fact that many within the Washington establishment from my own party hate this effort. But the fact that they’re against it simply tells me that I must be doing something right. Meanwhile, the Democrats are thrilled that we’ve got Republicans doing their bidding on this, fighting against this effort, and you’ve got Republicans essentially saying “Yeah, no matter what, we’re gonna fund Obamacare.” That’s a problem. Because we’ve got to be the party that is not just the conservative party, but also the opposition party –
RUSH: Well, that’s it.
SENATOR LEE: — the party that’s standing for the people and the people’s rights.
RUSH: That’s what nobody sees. We don’t see an opposition party, Senator, other than random individuals like you and Senator Cruz, occasionally Senator Rubio. There’s no push-back whatsoever. Did I just hear you say that there are — I think I did — there’s some Democrats that really hope that Obamacare would be defunded, but they can’t publicly say so, but they hope it happens so that they don’t have something harming them in their reelection campaign?
We the People Don’t Want Obamacare!
SENATOR LEE: You know, you did not hear me say that just a minute ago. I have wondered in the past whether there might be some who would secretly be relieved if that happened, because I think there is a lot of vulnerability on the Democratic side of the aisle due to the fact that Obamacare, again, is not just controversial. It is despised outside of the Washington, DC, Beltway area, and we’ve got to stop it, and I think the American people are with us. The wind’s at our backs on this. We’ve just gotta convince those who are here in Washington to do the right thing.
So… Barack Obama is Threatening to Shut the Government Down Unless ObamaCare Is Fully Funded… Tell Him to Bring it On.